Side-by-side charts of the Amtrak 188 crash and the 1943 Pennsylvania Railroad crash, which took many lives and happened in the same place. They have many features in common. VIEW FULL-SIZE CHARTS.
Amtrak 188 crashed in the same place as another infamous, even more deadly train accident: the Frankford Junction crash of 1943. [View charts at full size.]
The 1943 crash was caused by a mechanical malfunction — a piece of overheated equipment that caused an axle to snap, which then derailed a long train carrying 541 passengers. Unlike many such incidents, the time was recorded and it’s possible to cast an accurate chart. Right away you can see the exact Jupiter-to-Jupiter conjunction between the two charts. In other words, in both crashes, Jupiter was in the same exact degree of Leo.
New York Times cover after the 1943 wreck at Frankford Junction.
Both charts also have angular Sagittarius (the sign of travel) — the MC in the 1943 chart and the ascendant in the Amtrak chart.
Yet amidst all that (and more — these charts are spookily rich with correspondences) the most striking thing that the two charts have in common is Mars in Gemini.
In the 1943 chart, Mars is about to make a conjunction to Uranus. This is why Mars-Uranus aspects are considered classic accident astrology, and any good astrologer would say be cool and slow down. You can read a description of the gruesome accident here.
In the current Amtrak chart, Mars is opposite Saturn, another kind of aspect that indicates stress and pent up energy needing to be released.
But the to-the-degree, timed-to-the-minute aspect involves the 7th house cusp of the Amtrak chart intersecting exactly with Mars in the 1943 chart. This highlights the role of Mars in both charts. In the current accident this manifested as excess speed. In the 1943 chart, Mars manifested as a fire breaking out in a piece of equipment, leading to a chain reaction of events.
In the 1943 chart, notice that the Moon in Sagittarius is high above the chart (angular, on the 10th house cusp), about to oppose Mars-Uranus. In an event chart, the thing the Moon does next is one of the most important facts.
In the Amtrak chart, the Moon also busy. It’s in Pisces, describing the spaced-out nature of the consciousness involved. The Moon makes a different series of aspects — first to Juno, then to Jupiter, then to Pluto.
Still, the involvement of a powerfully aspected Mars in Gemini in these two crashes in the same place cannot be missed, and astrologers would do well to take note.
More on the “projectile” theory of crashing.
“The Latest On Amtrak Crash: Was Derailed Train Hit By An Object?
May 15, 2015 6:05 PM”
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/05/15/the-latest-on-amtrak-crash-was-derailed-train-hit-by-an-object/
“The NTSB says an assistant conductor in the cafe car of the Amtrak train said she heard the engineer talking to a regional rail train engineer who said he’d been “hit by a rock or shot at.” She says she thought she heard the Amtrak engineer say his train had also been struck.”
Ok so let’s assume the projectile hit the 188. Would someone please propose a scenario or two where something hitting the glass causes the train to go out of control?
I would imagine that trains have a dead switch — throttle that requires a living person to press it down to run the train, in case the engineer dies.
Only that there would have been injury to the engineer, but there is no mention of it. He lost consciousness before accident…a gas that knocked him out? Why wasn’t there a camera in the cockpit/driver’s seat 🙁
As I understand it, trains have dead switches, in case (for ex) the engineer has a heart attack while driving, his hand comes off the throttle and the train stops. So unless this was some kind of mind-control gas, I don’t see how to connect that to the train going 106 mph. It’s interesting that the object hitting the train is getting traction as a story.
Re dead switches, is someone experienced or knowledgeable in this field of technology?
As noted, all information is readily available on the net. I remember that the older versions were on floor of locomotive and could be defeated by keeping a brake shoe on board to place on top. They were heavy, mainly steel. Other types were and are handle variety on a throttle; pressure ended be maintained in either case or there would be a brake application. However, traveling at twice the speed limit is another thing. In our region ATC is used (goes by other names but a rose is a rose). Track receivers (a device in front of wheels on lead car or engine, pick up signals through the track, sent through a central command station. Metro-North’s is at 345 or 347 madison ave. A signal would be sent applying brakes regardless of engineer in event of not slowing when needed.
Loss of memory is common in injured trauma patients, often permanent. It doesn’t sound like that’s this engineer’s case. Lawyering up is one thing, this is another. He’s been mum to the nth degree, I’m suspicious. Beyond all above. The cab would have had an alerter system. Its possible ( Ive read ) (not an engineer) to answer them with a push of hand while in a sleep state.
To your observations, some main-stream media reports:
“The stretch of track did not have a speed-regulating system, which uses GPS to limit the velocity of the train, according to Sumwalt. He did not answer whether that train had a “dead man’s switch,” a device that slows a train down if the operator becomes incapacitated.”
“There also is a forward-facing locomotive camera that would have captured the track in front of the train.”
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2015/05/13/amtrak-service-altered-pennsylvania-derailment/27227009/
Ani–to your question about the engineer; according to media he had a head injury as well as concussion:
‘Meanwhile, at the front of the train, in the locomotive, the man who may know best what caused the crash also injured his head, suffering a concussion, his lawyer said. The engine tumbled over multiple times.
Now Engineer Brandon Bostian has memory loss due to a concussion, his attorney Robert Goggin said.
“I believe as a result of the concussion, he has absolutely no recollection of the events. I’m told that his memory is likely to return as the concussion symptoms subside,” he said.’
http://fox59.com/2015/05/15/what-happened-during-deadly-amtrak-crash-engineer-cant-remember/
To your observations, some main-stream media reports:
“The stretch of track did not have a speed-regulating system, which uses GPS to limit the velocity of the train, according to Sumwalt. He did not answer whether that train had a “dead man’s switch,” a device that slows a train down if the operator becomes incapacitated.”
“There also is a forward-facing locomotive camera that would have captured the track in front of the train.”
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2015/05/13/amtrak-service-altered-pennsylvania-derailment/27227009/
Ani to your question about the engineer; according to media he had a head injury as well as concussion:
‘Meanwhile, at the front of the train, in the locomotive, the man who may know best what caused the crash also injured his head, suffering a concussion, his lawyer said. The engine tumbled over multiple times.
Now Engineer Brandon Bostian has memory loss due to a concussion, his attorney Robert Goggin said.
“I believe as a result of the concussion, he has absolutely no recollection of the events. I’m told that his memory is likely to return as the concussion symptoms subside,” he said.’
http://fox59.com/2015/05/15/what-happened-during-deadly-amtrak-crash-engineer-cant-remember/
We don’t know when he got the concussion, but we know that the train rolled. So it’s a fair to propose that’s when he got hurt. Still, I have not seen a hypothetical sequence of events that gets us from a projectile to a runaway train. It seems like the unspoken one is that Bostian was hit on the head, and accelerated; that makes no sense.
Someone could research safety features of modern locomotives. The information is out there. But do we really think that the driver can be incapacitated and then the train can speed up? If that’s true, it’s one heck of a story.
Have we ruled out a suicide attempt? Do we have the guy’s psych history? I have not seen that mentioned anywhere. Bu all reports he’s a squeaky clean kid who grew up from trainspotter to engineer. But obviously there is a reason that train went flying off the tracks.
Wow, the Jupiter synchronicity of these charts is stunning. Thanks Eric. The ’43 crash chart’s Mars not only was about to conjunct Uranus, Uranus was conjunct the U.S. Uranus! This would have been the start a new 84 year cycle for the U.S. which will end in 2027=28.
The Sabian Symbol for the 1943 chart’s Mars degree and the descendant degree of the 2015 chart is AROUSED STRIKERS SURROUND A FACTORY. In describing the meaning of this symbol Dane Rudhyar alludes to what it inevitably leads to, “industrial unrest and violence”.
That degree also shows up in the chart for the 2000 conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn. It’s where the Sun was, symbol of consciousness, and it too was about to conjunct the U.S Uranus. Again, I wonder about disgruntled workers (commented on in the earlier thread) based on this Jupiter-Saturn chart’s Sun and the emphasis on Partnership (Jupiter conjunct Juno and the 7th house cusp degree and Mercury ruler of the 7th house located there) in the chart for this week’s derailment. Had there been issues regarding Union participation or non-participation at Amtrak we are aware of?
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P.S. Just noticed that the 2015 crash chart’s Juno at 13+ Leo is quincunx the Moon at 13+ Pisces, and when you add in the 1943 crash chart’s Juno at 13+ Capricorn, you get a yod. (2015 Juno is at the apex) What’s that you said earlier? Cherchez la femme? (1943’s Juno is trine the 1943’s Sun too!)
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