Hillary Clinton’s Presidential Announcement, Her Spinning Chart and More on the Digital Environment

Posted by Eric Francis

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I begin tonight’s program with a look at the chart of Hillary Clinton announcing her presidential candidacy with the Sun conjunct Eris. It’s a chart so interesting it makes me wonder whether she didn’t have an astrologer elect the time for her. I also consider the various versions of her chart, and explain why I am using a chart that nobody else seems to use, which has her as Cancer rising. In the second half of the program I continue my discussion of digital conditions and how we are being trained to be stupid by computers.

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I begin tonight’s program with a look at the chart of Hillary Clinton announcing her presidential candidacy with the Sun conjunct Eris. It’s a chart so interesting it makes me wonder whether she didn’t have an astrologer elect the time for her. I also consider the various versions of her chart, and explain why I am using a chart that nobody else seems to use, which has her as Cancer rising.

In the second half of the program I continue my discussion of digital conditions and how we are being trained to be stupid by computers. I also wonder out loud about what the digital environment is doing to “digital natives” who don’t know much else. Here is the chart for Hillary’s announcement as well as the natal chart I’m using. Note that in the program I am using an announcement chart that’s 10 minutes later than reality. It does not change the chart much but it does make Bill’s Sun’s contact with the ascendant a bit less dramatic — but not much. My musical guest is Sloan Wainwright.

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6 thoughts on “Hillary Clinton’s Presidential Announcement, Her Spinning Chart and More on the Digital Environment

  1. Len WallickLen Wallick

    Thank you Eric, for a wide-ranging yet notably coherent tour updating Planet Waves itself, mundane astrology, current events, and (let us not forget) the electronic background against which it is is all playing out. It was your genius today to capture the synchronicity of entanglements on a truly profound level. It took my breath away in the best sense possible. Maybe the song “Daddy’s Water” will come to mean even more with the passage of time because of the context in which you played it today.

  2. Michael MayesMichael Mayes

    I can’t say with certainty, but it is possible that the vast majority of millennials are unaware that their environment is in fact a digital environment. They might be thinking in terms like “digital world”. However, I don’t think they understand what that means. They aren’t grasping to what extent their entire existence has been influenced, and radically changed by technology. It’s likely that the vast majority are unaware as to how much potential for positive change in the world lies in the digital environment. Most in the United States seem to becoming a product of the digital environment instead of acting to improve, create, or build upon it from their own individual perspective.

  3. Phyllis LamkenPhyllis Lamken

    Thank you Eric. Loved the podcast. So much food for my brain. Will be pondering and musing about it for quite awhile. I am also especially interested in millennials. I am the mother of four according to your definition, ages 28 to 16. But personally, I think that there is a distinct difference between my older three Pluto in Scorpio children and my youngest Pluto in Sagittarius child. I really enjoy this generation. Much more so than the Pluto in Libra generation, which drive me crazy for many reasons. (I think the Pluto in Libra generation finds the Pluto in Virgo generation just as frustrating.) But I digress. The Pluto in Scorpio generation has been willing to embrace and acknowledge their shadow side. They don’t run and hide from it. There is a honesty in their lives, which I find refreshing. The Pluto in Sag generation are true rebels and we haven’t seen anything yet.

    Of course, this generation has been impacted by the latest tools, technology and the internet. Every generation is impacted by the tools they use. But it is a tool. Three of my children have a reading disability. More than the older children, my youngest had learned to use her technology to assist her. When typing, she automatically uses her spellchecker tool to help find the right word. With her phone, she speaks to it to get the proper spelling.

    She also spends hours and hours a day taking selfies and sending them to people. She snapchats and instagrams. She watches ghastly old tv shows on netflix. She and her friends text each other throughout the school day. Yet I am currently rereading Northanger Abbey and what struck me was how teen girls have not changed much in 200 years. I can very easily see a modern day Catherine Morland downloading the latest YA paranormal on her kindle and sending selfies to her bestie, Isabella.

    Is this generation unaware of the dangers and issues with technology? They are more aware than we are. My kids are much quicker to suspect catfishing than I am. They are aware of the dangers of a sex partner trying to take naked pictures with their cell phone on the sly. They have been frustrated by companions who won’t get off the phone in their company. They are also aware of a sensory overload. Too much information coming at them too fast.

    Their lives isn’t just the technology. They hike, bike, climb, ski, and dance. They go to concerts. They sing. They write. They draw. They take photographs. They travel.

    The biggest obstacle for the millennials isn’t technology. The biggest obstacles for the millennials is their lack of hope. Growing up in the sixties, I had an endless reservoir of optimism. I still have a great deal of optimism. But my children see fracking poisoning our water, a drought in California, a nuclear plant meltdown in Japan, mindless violence over religion, shrinking civil liberties, and climate change. They see a very dim future.

    1. Amy Elliott

      Oh my, that image of the girls in Northanger Abbey…absolutely spot-on. It would be quite interesting to see how Catherine, who is remarkably free from vanity and self-consciousness, would cope with the modern social surge towards selfies and baring all on social media.

      At that point in history, women who achieved fame for any reason whatsoever were considered to be breaching the bounds of modesty. Jane Austen herself suffered from this unspoken rule.

  4. Len WallickLen Wallick

    Phyllis: Please allow me to agree with your observations regarding the differences between Pluto-in-Scorpio and Pluto-in-Sagittarius people. You captured that (and a lot more) very well with your comment. Thank you for adding it all to the conversation here.

  5. Amy Elliott

    I am shamelessly conditioned by my cat, who thinks nothing of forcing me out of bed the minute I show any sign of waking, by repeated miaows, the tone of which invariably sounds like “hurry up woman and feed me”.

    I’ve noticed some of the ways in which we are all being shaped by our constant immersion in the world of digital. There’s the way people seem to want everything faster and visually more realistic all the time. We’ve forgotten how content we used to be with long-loading tapes, floppy disks and modems that used to make funny noises.

    Then there are the people who will text each other while sat a few feet away, spend an evening together on separate computers (guilty, I’m afraid) or use the phone while paying for their groceries (raises my hackles, that one…)

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